Wonder if this is an issue with the Steam version. Try running the game from the files and not Steam.

Assuming it crashed when you hit Apply Changes, the first thing to do is try unzipping your original download again. Make sure you have the latest version of 7zip.

If that doesn't do it, then you can try redownloading them. Every so often a corruption occurs during the transfer.

If it's still messed up, then we have an issue. I get a minidump on start up once every 50 times or so, but nothing consistent. You can try what Ryat suggests, as I know nothing of Steam's function, BUT what I know for sure is that you want to test it with the same add-ons every time. You change a variable and the whole experiment doesn't mean squat.

ah Steam,just when you think the game can't get any better, they release an unnecessary patch that does the exact opposite and then you have to reinstall and deny the patch each time you log in.....ah "progress"

.....honestly have nothing to contribute this time.....just making the above statement

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good hustle, boshimi

Well I tried redownloading and re-extracting but those two mods still cause mini-dumps for me when I try to apply them to the game. :/ Oh well. The main part of this mod is absolutely awesomely amazing. I also run the game from the files as I do not trust steam, or their fancy overlay. lol

I have another question. Is it possible to add envoy ships in the Forge? I am making a map and placing a few units in certain places, but I noticed that envoys are not one of the options available. I look around the forum and found the Diplomacy Forge which claimed that it had envoy ships in it. So I took a look and noticed that it did have that as an option to add to planets and the like. I remembered that stant, at least I think it was stant lol, said that you can use any mod in the Galaxy Forge if you use it's GalaxyScenerioDef file. So I found the entries in the Diplomacy Forge for the envoys, copied them into the GSD for DS, incremented the planetItemTypeCount by 3, and saved that file. Then I put that new envoy GSD in my own mini-mod and the Galaxy Forge folder. Made a simple test map where the PLayer0 planet should have one of each type of envoy at the start but alas, it did not work. There were no envoy ships, but there was a few of the standard things that I added in. Any ideas?

If this is the wrong place for this question, I'll move it to wherever it is better suited.

EDIT: I discovered that Flagship has it's own GSD. Whoops! Silly of me to not check all the mods I have active. Moving my mod to the top solved the problem! Although I still added the changes in Flagship to my mod for safety. I think I'm starting to get a hang of this modding thing. lol.

So for the record, before I start tearing my shit apart again trying to recreate your mini dumps, everything is working and what wasn't working was something you messed with, but is fixed now?  Am I understanding that right?

Yes.

Yes, but the options will only work for the mod you took the GSD file out of, well, the options that aren't shared.  Many mods incorporate Sins Plus and Celestial Bodies, so those options would carry over between, but other custom stuff wouldn't.

Did you also put that GSD in the top minimod's folder?  You sound like you're doing things right, but I just want to make sure you used the upper most minimod's GSD file (if it doesn't have one, then go to the next one in the list until you have one) and made the changes there and then copied it over to your forge.  If you just took it from the core game and then used flagships, for example on top of that, then your changes wouldn't show up in the game because the GSD for flagships wouldn't have those changes.

Go with it, Stant.

Honestly, I do want to know, I made some tweaks and silently updated all of the links a little while back.  If things got broken again, then I'd have to fix them again...  Plus now I know I need to make some changes to all of the GSD files to include envoys for forge placement (and create a couple icons for new content added), so might as well get it all done in one shot if there is a mini dump problem.

Hey Stant,

Not everything is working. I still have the same problems from earlier in the thread where trying to activate Power Pirates or any the DS Laserbeam mods still causes 100% consistent minidumps, if that is what you are asking. I'm still not sure why this is happening.

The mod I created to add envoys to the forge is separate from the mini-dump problem I was/am having. I can try any other suggestions you have. It's probably just a problem on my end if no one else is having this problem. 

From GoaFan's 4x mod...

Improved Diplomacy and Espionage

In an attempt to make Diplomacy easier to pursue, the functions of Vanilla envoy cruisers have been given to a new entity called embassies. Embassies are built by envoy cruisers around planets owned by other player and cost no fleet supply, potentially allowing one envoy cruiser to build enough embassies to max out your relations. The embassies themselves have the former abilities of envoy cruisers, but do not have diplomatic immunity, so you should only build them on friendly planets. Also to make up for embassies being easier to deploy and maintain, the max relationship bonus per planet has been reduced to +1, so you will need to have more embassies than vanilla envoys.

To give envoy cruisers another use after building enough embassies , they have been given 3 new espionage abilities. One shared among all three is the ability to deploy a phase probe, which is basically a mine modified to spy on the gravity well it is deployed in instead of explode. Like other mines it can only be removed by scouts once set up, and are a great way to get intelligence on distracted players. They will only work in neutral or hostile gravity wells however, to prevent players from laying them in friendly gravity wells of players they intend to backstab.

The other two abilities are unique for each faction, but they are all used against enemy planets, with one lesser ability that can be used a safe distance away from the planet and one greater ability that needs to be used right next to the planet. Their effects range from simple trade penalties to completely halting population growth, and last for several minutes, though the cool downs are even longer to prevent them from being used on multiple planets. Also the diplomatic immunity ability has been mortified to prevent envoys from using other abilities while invulnerable, so its best used to allow your envoys to escape after using the abilities, not for breaking into fortified planets.

Enhanced AI

While the Sins AI is not very moddable, a few modders, most notably ZombieRus5, have discovered a few tricks that can improve their performance. A few of them have been included in this mod.

The advent homing mine squadron has been removed from advent carrier cruisers (the AI would often just build many squadrons of mines, then bring them into combat without deploying them, making carriers a dead weight on its fleet supply and economy). Instead, the carrier can deploy homing mines with an ability like the Vasari minelayer. While this means you can no longer deploy squads from across the gravity well, the ability to keep your strikecraft deployed at all times should more than make up for it.

Each faction's AI has been given certain techs it now prefers to research. The AI is quick to get research that unlocks ships or abilities, but other abilities are mostly ignored unless it has so many resources it doesn't have anything else to use them for. While the AI will still prefer to max out its available fleet supply than research, it will now get certain techs, like Phase Missiles for the Vasari or Armor for the TEC, much quicker than normal.

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Have we ever considered creating a new frigate or cruiser to perform the espionage abilities and add that research to the diplo tree?

Have we incorporated any of the AI ideas here? Advent homing squadrons (when used by the AI) do suck after all.

Yes, that is exactly what I'm asking.  Thanks.

Continue development after release?  WTH? 

That sounds fracking awesome, I may have to get Dip and try this out, instead of waiting for Rebellion...

*Swats Bison starting a stampede*

Run my friend, run.  You and your companions all need to be getting diplomacy and crush anyone who doesn't have it.

Damn bitch, move....